if you are going to milwaukee the charge, make it on the stage, and that really put gingrich in his place. you know, that's happened through -- that happened throughout the primary debates. when pawlenty wouldn't -- if a candidate is not willing to say the same thing on stage face-to-face that they'll say in an interview, we view them as weak. that moment was a moment of strength for governor romney. >> dana bash is joining us life. dana, that was really fascinating. interesting that you spoke to the republican strategist brad o'donnell, one of romney's primary debate here. he spent a lot of time with him during the primaries. how much does the romney think that those 20 or so debates in the primaries is going to help him win tonight? >> well, of course, any debate that any candidate has they think will help, but, you know, this is a very, very different ballgame. first of all, mitt romney was standing next to about half a dozen people at any given moment. this is mano-y-mano with the president of the united states. also, the tens of millions of viewers will be watching. it is a very diff